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What is this hippy s#!%t mumbo jumbo? We jews are a proud rational people. We pride ourselves on Noble Prizes, books, ethical reasoning and the invention of Waze. What do you mean that a sticky human emotion can make the difference between persecution and reverence? Is it just wishful thinking couched in Biblical tales or an expression of the laws that govern the system of nature, evident throughout our sketchy history?
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Lio: Not all Jews are evil, but all evil is Jewish. What? Forget Abraham's personality. Let's look at Abraham, the idea. No, it's just unite, for God's sakes. Be whoever you are. But unite. And unite. Everybody talks about Israel. I love Israel. I don't love Israel. I hate Israel. Israel is terrible. Israel is my home. So, what did Abraham discover? That's a question. I think that's a big question. What happened at the foot of Mount Sinai? Love your friend as yourself for one year. That's his challenge. Starting. Starting now. Starting right now. Otherwise, we will disperse and dissolve just as every other nation has throughout history. So that's the root of antisemitism. The Jews...
Seth: Saw them all. Beat them all, and is now what he always was. All things are mortal but the Jew. All other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?
Lio: Okay, listen, listen, enough of that. This is a podcast, and we're going to find the solution to antisemitism. Okay, we're going to stop that right here, right now. From this stinking basement. When we get to the bottom of this, we're gonna read from this mystery book, which you're not gonna find out about until the end of the series, and we're gonna really entertain every perspective. We're not gonna say, oh, you can't say this, you can't say that. No, we're gonna say everything because if we're not gonna be able to talk about it, we're not gonna be able to solve it. You know, we're gonna really grab you in the kish and we're gonna squeeze until we get something, right? Either a bowel movement or a freaking solution. We want to know what happened 3,500 years ago in Babylon that started this whole mess and we want to finish it here in 2020. That's it. Not all Jews are evil. But all evil is Jewish. What? Not all Jews are evil. All evil is Jewish. Is something. It's a professor of Jewish thought speaking to a friend of mine in Oxford at a conference about antisemitism. He was saying that the situation there is quite terrible. Situation in Europe for Jews. This is basically the image people have of Jews, you know, in Europe. Speaking about a second Holocaust. It's very easy to you know, to uh we had you know, we had a few a couple of weeks of quiet and it's like suddenly it feels like everybody's back to we started this whole podcast after a March of Solidarity. Do you feel more...
Seth: It was in the air, yeah. Do you feel more solidarity somehow? No, there was something in the air for a...
Lio: Minute there,
Seth: And then it just...
Lio: Yeah,
Seth: It's like a change of channel.
Lio: Yeah, which is why we're doing this, which is why we're reading from this book and we're trying to see if it holds some clues of history, clues into why people say what they say, why people feel what they feel. We'll get to that later. This is The Jew Function, the only podcast talking about trying to get to the root of antisemitism and solutions to it, using a book, a mystery book, which we are going to reveal at the end of the series. And this is episode four. Today we're gonna really get to the main hypothesis in this book. So this is gonna be good. You really wanna stay with us on this and then maybe take some notes, Seth. This is a good time for that. I'm here with my good friend Seth, author, concerned citizen, also trying to figure out what the hell is going on with the Jews. You know, why people feel the way they do about Jews. In the last episode, we almost got into the Israeli nation. We talked about Abraham's efforts, the birth of a nation. We started to talk about what it means, what was going on in Babylon, the eruption of the ego and Abraham, one of those local priests doing what he was doing, worshipping these idols of wood and stone, remember? He had a different feel for what needs to happen when this human ego started to erupt and to take over. And he basically went out and didn't just sit by and let it like explode and be like, Okay, I'll just go with...
Seth: I just I have to say, I can't stand the children's stories. Okay, so I just want to say I know what you're talking about,
because I looked into this more than a little bit. This is also a time of civilization, three thousand whatever years ago. The cradle of civilization, agriculture, irrigation, the invention of the wheel, exactly. Sixty seconds in a minute, sixty minutes in a so something was happening in humanity. So we're okay, fine. As long as we're talking about it from that perspective and not from the perspective that I need to drink some kind of Kool-Aid like a children's story, because right away I'm kind of repulsed when, not rep, I'm not rep by you, but I'm rep by this feeling that I need to swallow some...
Lio: Children's Harry Potter is fine, but you know, but something...
Seth: About Abraham is oh my god. I don't want to swallow something that me as a modern adult thinks as a fairy tale. So now, if we're talking about there's a time when all of a sudden the ego explodes in...
Lio: Civilization. Let's look at the principle behind it.
Seth: Okay, forget about.
Lio: The story, let's see what we can extract from it. What we can tease out of it, okay?
Seth: Okay, I'm with you. For...
Lio: Abraham's personality. Let's look at Abraham, the idea. He came up with this idea and he united people around that idea. For the first time, I think, there was a group of people that assembled around an idea. Not a tribe, not a...
Seth: Extended...
Seth: Family,
Lio: Not an...
Seth: Ethnic. When I heard about this, it's the coolest kind of...
Seth: Concept ever.
Seth: You have all of these different nations...
Seth: Together,
Seth: All different clans and tribes. All these different people came together and kind of made a nation around an idea. That's amazing. Right.
Lio: So that's a breakthrough. That's amazing. That's already an amazing thing. I'm proud to be Jewish just because of that. Let's read what it says about this nation out of our mystery book. Yeah, from our mystery book, starting a little bit before the section we're going to read today. It's important. Everybody talks about Israel. I love Israel. I don't love Israel. I hate Israel. Israel is terrible. Israel is my home. Birthright, this, that. We have all these. I don't think anyone has looked at Israel in the way Abraham was looking at it when that nation was...
Seth: Conceived. So let's conceive the nation. In the cradle of civilization, which was modern day Iraq. Right. Right, right.
Lio: I don't know if you knew at the time that that was going to happen, but. That's what he was at least, that was the idea he was going for. So let's read it from Indeed. Indeed.
Seth: Israel is not really a name of a people. In Hebrew, the word Yisrael is a combination of two words, Yesh,
Lio: Straight, and El. God. Also toward, right? Also the word EL means towards, also means God also means towards. So it's straight towards or straight towards...
Seth: God. In other words, it would be good to understand what God means, but that's, I guess, another part that'll be in our...
Lio: Next podcast series.
Seth: In other words, Israel designates a mindset of wanting to discover the united root, the force of life. So clearly, we're not talking here about God as some hocus-pocus. We're talking about some force, some...
Seth: United, force of nature.
Seth: Okay, fine. It's a desire to attain or to perceive the Creator. Okay, fine. Rabbi Meir Ben-Gab said about it: quote: In the meaning of the name Israel, there is also Yas El. Simple. Likewise, the great Ram wrote succinctly, Israel, Yas El. Put differently, more than a name, Israel designates a state of being, the direction of the desire that drove Abraham to his discoveries.
Lio: Okay, so Israel is not just a state in the Middle East. It's not just, you know, in elementary school you read the story about the Bible, Jacob fighting. The angel Sarael, you know, he kind of went against the Creator and or against this divine force, and that that was the birth of the nation. And that was kind of like the end of it, right? Like this group that defies something, which is hard to grasp even now, but this one suddenly sounds much more direct. Like we have a different goal. We're going straight to the Creator, which we talked about actually last in the last episode: this force of nature, this one force in nature, which we said let's, you know, we can exchange nature, Creator. It's just one system, one...
Seth: Whatever that singular force is that operates everything,
Lio: A law, right? So there's a law, and they're going to try to He's using this...
Seth: Language, and these rabbis, quote, rabbis, not a rabbi like a guy who has a place down the street here. These are great people that we're talking about here. You have nothing against rabbis.
Seth: They called this thing El. We translate it as God. They called it this force,
Lio: This singular...
Seth: Force. I just need to keep reminding ourselves. We'll include a glossary...
Lio: At the end of the...
Seth: Podcast.
Lio: Also, you could probably see some of that in Seth's book, Jew,
Seth: An...
Lio: Antidote to antisemitism. So that was his premise. He gathered these people, representatives from all the nations, all those tribes that lived there. He said who wants to go there while everybody was busy stabbing each other in the back and hiking prices everywhere and overcharging for fixing your horse, this guy said, Well, let's try to do something above it. Not just go with the flow like everybody else might have done in that same situation. Oh, you can't fight it, you can you know, just go with it. He said, No, I'm going to go above it. I'm going to try to go straight to where it's coming from. That was his kind of premise. And so we get to the root of antisemitism. I think this is the part that everybody listening for over the three episodes wanted to get to. What is the hypothesis? What really are this book saying the root of antisemitism is? So what did Abraham discover? Maybe that will bring us into that. Maybe even start from Abraham's struggle from the top...
Seth: There. The root of antisemitism. Abraham's struggle to instill the principle of a balance was more than an attempt to save his home community. Abraham discovered that the egoism in humanity was an ever-growing beast, and without a working method to contain it, it would destroy everything. In the quote at the beginning of this chapter, Mark Twain mentions some of the greatest empires in history and asks how come they all declined and vanished into dream stuff while the Jews did not. The answer to his question is simple: other nations succumbed to their growing egoism, which eventually disintegrated their societies and caused their downfall.
Lio: That answers that Mark Twain, right? King Solomon wrote, Hate stirs up strife,
Seth: And love will cover all crimes. The Midrash, written many centuries later, stressed: One does not leave the world with half of one's wishes in one's hand. For one who, my father used to say something like this to me, for one who, you give them, or Bob Marley, you give them a hand, they take whatever. One does not leave the world with half of one's wishes in one's hand. For one who has 100 wants 200, and one who has 200 wants 400. Human nature. In the 19th century, Nathan Sternhart, the disciple of Rabbi Nach Bres, compiled the book Le K Hal. which his teacher had instructed. Consistent with the principles of matching hatred with love of others in order to maintain balance, Steinhart wrote, "The vitality is mainly through un, by all the changes being included in the source of un. For this reason, love your neighbor as yourself is the great rule of the Torah." To include in unity and peace. The vitality, sustenance, and correction of the whole creation are mainly by people of different views becoming included together in love. Unity and peace. I love that, Lio. In other words, we must not only cover our hatred with love, but rather keep doing so persistently. Because our egoism grows, so must our unity otherwise we will disperse and dissolve just as every nation has throughout history.
Lio: You know, what I find fascinating is that it says the great rule of the Torah grew up on it in Israel also. Right? Love your friend
Seth: As yourself. It's the great rule of the Tor.
Lio: Everybody says it, but then it's like, wait, is this a great rule of the Torah? Like, yeah, yeah, but. Forget about it for a second. There's
Seth: Like a whole...
Lio: There's like six hundred and something other rules that we're gonna look to further. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait a second, but this is the great rule. Right? The rule is from the word kl, right? In Hebrew, the thing that includes, right? The collective, the inclusive. That's the word for kl, for rule. So the rule, the kl, the collective includes all the details. So why even bother with all the other little things if we can go to that? Let's go let's go, let's try that. How about we try that for a while? And not only that, he says you have to not just do it once, or like International Kindness Day or something like that. You know, it's like, no, no, no, not every day is International Kindness Day. Because our egoism grows, so must our unity otherwise we will disperse and dissolve just as every other nation has throughout history.
Seth: When you have a group of dogs or you have a group of a certain kind of animal, even you take it to the human level, you have a certain country where everyone's homogeneous. It's much easier to have less crime and everything. Everyone kind of has the same religion. Homogeneous. Homogen has the same religion, the same Background, the same foods, all those kinds of things. When you put together different people with all different views, all different religions, all different foods, this one's vegetarian, this one's carnivore, right? Then you can, and they have to live together. So that's what I'm thinking when you came to Babylon. It's one thing when everybody lived very tribally, very much in their own. It's kind of very close to nature.
Lio: Right?
Seth: Like Aboriginal people, they know when it's gonna rain, they're in touch with the animals, they have the spirits of the animals. Then you bring all these people together. It's, you know. We're talking 3 million people living, you know, that's no. That's Chicago, right? And each one has their different kind of belief system about. You know, the family roots where they come from, the kind of things they do. So it's today, it's like it's the modern Babylon today. You have all of these people jammed together. All these different views clashing the ego, of course. I mean, when we look...
Lio: No wonder that already back then, people rejected that idea. You know, like "Love your friends as yourself." Okay, hold on, I'm selling some water here. Can we talk about it later? I mean, it's like that. When calamity strikes—we talked about it in the first chapter, I think, episode. Yeah, 9/11 happened, and everybody was nice for three weeks. As soon as everything's back to normal...
Seth: Well, like after this antisemitism explosion here in America, it was like, was it ten years ago? It feels like it was...
Lio: Ten minutes ago, but it feels like it.
Seth: It's like, over. It's finished.
Lio: Yeah, so no wonder they rejected him because it was the unnatural thing to do. The natural thing was to go with that feeling: I have to take care of myself. You will come next. I promise, eventually, we'll get to you.
Seth: First, me. And the problem with that is, tomorrow I have a new desire that I need to take care of for myself. And then I have another...
Seth: Desire that I need to take care of myself. I never have...
Lio: Time for you.
Seth: So I never have time to take care of you. That's the thing. And Abraham insists: no, we have to do it, or we fall. The chasm that opened between Abraham, his students, and the rest of the Babylonians is still open today. It is the root of this irrational hatred we call antisemitism. Although, for the most part, people did not know why they hate the Jews.
Lio: Congress. This is a big thing because for four episodes, we say we're going to get to the root of it. So, what is the word of it again? The chasm, the rift between Abraham and his students, right? The future nation of...
Seth: Israel.
Seth: The future...
Seth: Jews.
Lio: And the rest of the Babylonians. Those who say love your friend as yourself and those who say forget about it.
Seth: Or not even forget about it, but it's just not in their consciousness.
Lio: I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. So that's the root of antisemitism.
Seth: Yeah, that's a big statement. Yeah, wow.
Lio: Okay, like, let's...
Seth: Write it down in our notebooks. Yeah. And forget about it tomorrow. Let's keep going. Let's see what they say. Although, for the most part, people do not know why they hate the Jews, whether consciously or not. They feel that the Jews symbolize both something they ought to do, namely to unite above their egos, and that the Jews are meant to be an exemplary nation that lives out that unity and thereby sets a role model.
Lio: So this brings me back to my friend's interviews in Oxford. So he's talking to Professor Patters, which by the way, we also talked to in one of our conversations on our YouTube channel, "The Jew Function." And he said, well, first of all, just to put it in context, this is about an Oxford conference about antisemitism. You gather the best minds, the best speakers, professors, academics, people researching this phenomenon. And they all come together and talk about the study of antisemitism, but outside of the conference, my friend is having talks with them, and they're not discussing some theoretical issue. They're talking about antisemitism against them on campus while they're having that conference about antisemitism. And he's saying humanity has all these distractions, right? Drugs and alcohol and movies and shopping and all these little sedatives, and they just want to have a nice little sleep. But Jews are telling them, no, this is what you...
Seth: Have to do. You have to engage in loving the other. So, as a Jew, I get the Jewish newsletter every month that all Jews get that tells us what we're supposed to do. So, I know what you mean. And...
Lio: Just to finish that, we'll get to your newsletter. Just to finish that, and it's not that tries to awaken everyone that people don't like. And when you try to wake them up, people will even kill you just to stay asleep. Right? It's like that Easy Rider film, right? You know, when you tell people they don't have free choice, they take out their gun. I'm not quoting, I'm paraphrasing. They'll show you they have free choice by shooting you, right? Something like that. It's a very subtle thing. It's a very scary thing, even. So I get it, and I...
Seth: Get why the newsletter hasn't reached everyone. I'm just saying that it's almost unconscious or subconscious. It remains from the past or something because I don't think that Jews are conscious of this quality.
Lio: That's a question. I think that's a big question. When...
Seth: The Nazis came and said your grandma was one-fourth Jew, did they take one-fourth? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, good. So you're one-fourth, you're intermarried, you're, you know, working as a regular German citizen. What do you mean? I'm not a Jew, I don't even do Passover, I do nothing. What are you talking about? But it still counted. So, what like that's what I mean?
Lio: The last people on the trains were the ones that already converted to Christianity. So there's something irrational, we say. It's irrational.
Seth: But what the book is saying, what you're saying, is that the Jews have this thing that keeps humanity wanting to relax, and the Jew keeps nudging them forward. Unwittingly...
Lio: And yeah, he doesn't even know it sometimes. Yeah, that's the tough point. What happened at the foot of Mount Sinai?
Seth: The foot of Mount Sinai, when Moses united the fugitives from Egypt and they accepted the law we call Torah. Which means law.
Lio: Or...
Seth: Instruction, right? They accepted it only because they complied with the condition to be, quote, as one man with one heart. Also, again, sounds like Bob Marley. Yeah, I remember. Subsequently, I wonder where he got it. Subsequently, they were declared a nation and were given the task to be a light unto the nations. Oh, the light. The light that the Jews were meant to bring was not some celestial aura, but rather the law of unity that Abraham discovered, in which they at the foot of Mount Sinai had committed to implement in their society. It was an approach to life that enables human beings to rise above their egos and create a balanced, thriving society that lives in homeostasis. Ever since the Jews were given that task, hatred towards them grew when they were not united and were therefore not a light to the nations. And diminished or even disappeared when they conducted their relationships with one another positively and thereby set an example that others would want to emulate.
Lio: Okay. That was well, maybe this is worth reading again.
Seth: Okay, everybody. Ever since the Jews were given that task...
Lio: Of...
Seth: Spreading this unity, hatred towards them grew when they were not united and were therefore not a light to the nations. And it diminished, or even disappeared, when they conducted their relationships with one another positively, and thereby set an example that others would want to emulate. Leo, let's unite the Jews.
Lio: That's a radical idea. Let's...
Seth: Unite...
Lio: The Jews. Let's do it. That's the radical idea. I think. I think. That's the idea that when I talk to people, again, it's like going back to the rule in the Torah that we'll get to at the end. People say, well, this is not practical. There's antisemitism going on. People are shooting Jews. We need guns or we need some other things. It feels so elusive, like, wait, I'm going to be nice to you and suddenly all this other stuff is going to disappear. There's a little...
Seth: Bit of nuance. I think the nuance that's worthwhile to bring up is, if we're talking about nature, you know, we said that has something to do with nature. Okay, so in nature, nature doesn't have a problem if one person, one creature wants to live in a hole in the ground. And another one wants to build an elaborate... I just saw someone post it on my Facebook. Well, my kids are embarrassed that I'm still watching Facebook. Of some caterpillar that builds this like unbelievable immaculate house with different logs going different ways. So nature doesn't say, Oh, you're so vain. And the other one is, Creatures, all the creatures can be however they are, and they can all live in nature together. And I, when it comes to what you just asked, your question. Doesn't mean that a Jew may, you know, that he's Republican, he has to become Democrat, or he Democrat, he has to...
Seth: Become Republican. I think that...
Seth: Well, everybody basically except us. But this premise of unity, it doesn't mean like everybody should just be whitewashed and become the exact same...
Lio: Thing. No, it should just unite, for God's sakes. Be whoever you are. But unite. Yeah, you want to be a blood cell, be a blood cell. You want to be a brain cell, be a brain cell. You want to be muscle tissue...
Seth: Of...
Seth: My...
Lio: Body. I got the chills. Yes. It's almost too simple. Almost too simple. But I think that the thing that we're missing, the thing that sounds metaphysical, the thing that sounds unreal, is due to the fact we're not tying it with nature, to nature. We think human emotions are outside of nature. Oh, there's gravity, but I still feel the way I feel to you, or I don't feel the way You know, people like disconnect the two. They don't question where they get their feelings and what they have to do with them, if they they have any choice in the matter. And we think that I feel something and I go with it, right? That's that we're going back to Abraham. I just I just go with it. I feel like taking care of me, Num Uno, and you come next, if at all. And we'll collaborate as, uh, Neil Donald Walsh, we have him in an old film we did, Crossroads. He says, Well, I'm ready to work with you, and if our interests align, then I'm ready to do things together. If they don't align, then I may not like you, I may even have to kill you. Right? It's like very natural. But he's saying no, you have to be always above that, above that inclination. That's the thing.
Seth: Midrash Tana Devei Eliyahu, an ancient commentary on the Torah, writes: The Lord said to them to Israel, My sons, have I lacked anything that I should ask of you? And what do I ask of you? Only that you love one another, respect one another, and fear one another, and that there will be no transgression, theft, and ugliness among you.
Lio: Now replace the word Lord with nature? Literally? Yeah, that's right. Let's see. Let's see...
Seth: How it feels. And the nature. Nature said to them, to Israel, to those who were directed straight to nature, My sons, have I lacked anything that I should ask of you? And what do I ask of you? Only that you love one another, respect one another, and fear one another, and that there will be no trouble. Transgression, theft, and ugliness among you.
Lio: And you know, it's also so natural because the funny thing is that. Well, funny, it's not ha funny, it's just, you know, in kindergarten we teach kids to get together. If you take one stick and break it, it breaks. If you take a bunch of sticks and try to break them, you can't break them. It makes sense to be together, and yet only when an outside threat comes, we do it. We don't bother doing it at any other time. And even now when there is a threat...
Seth: We're still debating if we should. It's a very painful point that, you know, God forbid something terrible happened, we would unite for real? Is it possible that we could somehow muster up those feelings, whatever feeling that is, in order to do it before the calamity?
Lio: That's the challenge. I think that's the difference between being an animal. Oh, the wolves are closing in. We should get in the huddle. And being a human, right? A wise person has his eyes in his head. You know what's coming.
Seth: I think the issue we have, we'll have to expand on this at some point, is our emotions. They want to rest. They don't want to really look at what's really happening because it's too big, seems too out of control. It seems totally out of my control that I'm going to control the presidential election and what's going on with...
Lio: I think we're not giving nature enough credit. Oh, we keep forgetting. We keep thinking we're in control of...
Seth: Everything. That's right, that's exactly right. That's what it feels like. When I think that everything is too much and it's out of my control, and I don't know what to do, and the problems are too big.
Lio: I'm just thinking, I loved astronomy when I was growing up. I loved, you know, the universe and all of that.
Seth: You loved the...
Lio: Universe when you were growing up? Yeah I loved the universe. It was my favorite. My nanny at the time, she didn't like it. She's like, I don't want to look at the star. Aren't you curious about what's happening? Where's it coming from? No, no, I don't. It scares me. I don't look at the stars. I looked at the stars. I liked it. And you know, when you think about everything that had to happen to get us to where we are: the Big Bang, and the galaxies, and the contraction, and expansion, and heat, and cold, and all that stuff, and the vastness of space, and the solar system, and billions of years for that to just cool off, and then something smashes into Earth and a piece flies off and it's the moon and then that cools off and the crust and then the continents, Pangea, the dinosaurs and the plants and blah blah blah blah blah and then we come like "Hey, I'm a good...
Seth: Guy, I'm gonna get a coffee." It's like a...
Lio: I mean, just the vanity of that you know, forget anything. Just a little humility...
Seth: Towards nature is all I'm saying. It's you know our problem. We can't see five, we can't see past five minutes or ten minutes or two...
Lio: Oh, right. Yeah, today if it's not written on a web page, then it didn't happen. What is that? We have a Rabbi Kalonymus Kalman Shapira, one of the seminal books of, right? Uh seventeenth century Hasidut. What is he writing? Ma'av Shem?
Seth: Son...
Lio: That he may establish you today as his people.
Seth: It means that by this you will have revival. You will be saved. Nature is saying this to us. Nature will establish us as His people, meaning that by this you will have revival; you will be saved from calamities. Afterwards, he said to Israel, "Not with you alone am I making this covenant," meaning that being saved from any harm by bonding was not promised only to Moses' generation, rather, but with those who stand here with us today and with those who are not with us here today, meaning that all future generations have been promised to pass through all the bludgeons of the covenant, and that through the unity and bonding that will be among them, they would not be harmed.
Lio: Amazing. And then Rabbi Trake also talks about the connection, that explicit connection between Jewish unity and what happens as a result of its absence. And again, we're just quoting from this book; we're just quoting from our own people, right, talking about it openly—love, peace,
Seth: and loathe division. Great is the peace, for even when Israel practices idol worshipping, if there is peace among them, the Creator says, "I wish not to touch them." As it is written, "Ephra is joined to idols; let him alone." If there's a division among them, what is said about them? "Their heart is divided; now they will bear their guilt." And in the 20th century? Rav Yehuda Ashlaugh stressed the practical benefits of implementing unity in our lives. Quote: "The matter of social unity, which can be the source of every joy and success, applies particularly among bodies and bodily manners and people, and the separation between them is the source of every calamity and misfortune."
Lio: This is the guy who tried to warn the entire Polish Jewry about the impending Holocaust. They spit in his face. They excommunicated him. He moved to Israel. Three million Jews perished in Poland, and
Seth: Pope's family lived.
Lio: We're getting ahead of ourselves.
Seth: I had a spark in this one, in this episode. There
Seth: was something really
Lio: exciting that happened. It's exciting because I think we're feeling... I fell in love with you again. It's, well, I think it's important that we stay connected, you know? If I learned anything from this episode, it's that connection is good, division is bad. You know what? I would like to do it as a social experiment for one year. All the Jews are just nice to each other, caring. Can you imagine?
Seth: But I
Lio: mean, but really, that's all they do. They don't care about their business; they don't care about
Seth: anything. No, no, no, fine, but what if they still... Whatever business they're in, whatever they
Lio: Yeah, yeah, I'm saying the heart. Where's the heart? Am I going like, "Oh, I'm gonna..." No, I'm going to, "Oh, how's Settlers doing? What's going on? What's going
Seth: on?" Such a small
Seth: group of people, and they
Seth: could do it. They can do it. Start small. Start just with these people.
Lio: Let them
Seth: do it for one year. See what happens. Yeah, see if it affects anyone else.
Lio: Yeah, take nine other people in your life and form a circle and say, "We're going to try to be connected about anything." Can we reach all the Jewish people and tell them for one year? Maybe
Seth: just
Lio: one circle of Jews. Maybe we start with 10. Right, I mean, just
Seth: no, just
Lio: they talk about min, right? It's like
Seth: maybe we
Lio: 'll get to the whole minyan thing. Forget about everything else; focus on the big, the great rule of the Torah, right? Love your friend as yourself for
Seth: one year.
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Next week, well, first of all, I just want to say that we started with this big bomb from Oxford and the looming Second Holocaust, which I hope we can avert. Next week, we're going to go a little fast forward and look at self-hatred in antiquity. You like that? Self-hatred in antiquity. From Egypt, and we're going to come out of Egypt all the way to the... We're going to start coming out of Egypt towards the first temple, whatever that means. The book says things about... So stay with us next week. I'll be here, Seth will be here. Let's try that year of unity. Good night, everyone.